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Woodley is impressive as hell, but between his intelligence in pacing and opponents fear in closing the distance on him, his last 3 fights have been boring as ****.

Entertaining from a technical standpoint, but not much for a casual fan to sink their teeth into.
 
Yep....3 fights in a row where Tyron and his opponent danced around each other for 5 rounds. 23 stuffed take down attempts make it kind of not his fault in this way, but he's not very dynamic when he's moving forward offensively and seems to not be willing to eat shots (after Wonderboy 1, he mentioned a punch he took when he tried to close the distance in the first round, and it kept him from wanting to close on Wonderboy for the rest of the fight...).

Dana needs to find someone who wants to stand in front of him, and punch him in the face. GSP isn't that guy.
 
Habspatrol said:
I can see GSP beating him. Not sure I'd bet on it mind you.
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I can't see GSP taking him down...not at the rate he's used to being able to take people down at anyway, and he never had a great chin to begin with. That's a tough matchup for GSP imo, he's gotta win it with strikes.
 
If Cormier had any chance of beating him it was that fight. He was looking really good going into rd 3. That's a heart breaker for him

And Jones is the baddest man on the planet. Amazing fighter

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And as big of a PPV draw Jones Lesnar is i would rather see Jones/Miocic.

No one at LHW is touching Jones and Miocic is on a role. Let these two go at it
 
One thought from last night is that MMA is going to have the same issues the NFL is having legally one day. I find it interesting that Yamasaki (a very experienced grappler, and 5th degree BJJ blackbelt) ate metric tons of shit for stopping a fight "early" when a guy getting choked out was pretty clearly defenseless and not actively defending himself any longer, but Big John lets a prone DC eat 4-5 big shots too many and other than Schaub and 2-3 other fighters on twitter, no one says a ****ing word about a late stoppage that clearly left DC concussed.

That culture is going to leave a lot of these guys with brain injuries post retirement, and without the type of money a typical NFL player walks away from his career with. UFC is going to have some heavy lawsuits on their hands in 10-20 years, book it.
 
Artnes said:
And as big of a PPV draw Jones Lesnar is i would rather see Jones/Miocic.

No one at LHW is touching Jones and Miocic is on a role. Let these two go at it
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UFC was bought on credit, gotta make sure the banks stay paid. Bones-Lesnar is a "money" fight and that seems to be what the UFC is interested in these days. **** weight classes, **** rankings, who has the most instagram followers?

But yeah, you're right. Way better fight.
 
MindzEye said:
One thought from last night is that MMA is going to have the same issues the NFL is having legally one day. I find it interesting that Yamasaki (a very experienced grappler, and 5th degree BJJ blackbelt) ate metric tons of shit for stopping a fight "early" when a guy getting choked out was pretty clearly defenseless and not actively defending himself any longer, but Big John lets a prone DC eat 4-5 big shots too many and other than Schaub and 2-3 other fighters on twitter, no one says a ****ing word about a late stoppage that clearly left DC concussed.

That culture is going to leave a lot of these guys with brain injuries post retirement, and without the type of money a typical NFL player walks away from his career with. UFC is going to have some heavy lawsuits on their hands in 10-20 years, book it.
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The problem is the legal analysis.

Is the NFL getting successfully sued because the sport causes concussions? No. Its getting sued because the league actively worked to hide the science being done on concussions at the time, and to not let players know the risks.

Players today, UFC fighters today, they know the risks and willingly take them. This is going to make suing the league's much tougher. If Dana White knows something about concussions that the regular public doesn't know, and is actively working to supress that info, things will be different, but somehow I doubt these coverups are still happening today.
 
BKerr said:
The problem is the legal analysis.

Is the NFL getting successfully sued because the sport causes concussions? No. Its getting sued because the league actively worked to hide the science being done on concussions at the time, and to not let players know the risks.

Players today, UFC fighters today, they know the risks and willingly take them. This is going to make suing the league's much tougher. If Dana White knows something about concussions that the regular public doesn't know, and is actively working to supress that info, things will be different, but somehow I doubt these coverups are still happening today.
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They can also be sued for not taking appropriate measures to protect their employees, they don't need to be hiding information, simply not appropriately acting upon available information. There's only so much liability a company can displace by making their workers aware of the hazard.
 
I tend to agree with BKerr, the big difference is the NFL hid from the players what it knew about the dangers in and effort to protect its owners best interests....while in MMA the dangers are pretty out in the open from the jump.


More importantly though, the referees who decide when fights end or a competitor has had taken too much damage/is concussed.....aren't UFC employees, they work for the athletic commissions. So placing legal blame at the feet of the UFC would be nearly impossible.

Hell, the fighters aren't even UFC employees.....they're independent contractors.....further mudding the waters.


It's pretty doubtful anything meaningful even comes of it.....more likely that like we're seeing in the NFL, competitors will simply weigh the dangers more heavily & we'll see more and more people make their bank, and then get out of the sport early.
 
Jones is an animal. What a beauty of a martial artist. The guy is insanely talented and physically gifted.

DC shouldn't have been interviewed by Rogan at the end. With that said DC is a sore loser anyway. Leaving the octagon. Getting yelled at by White to get his ass back in there was hilarious. Up until that 3rd round that was the best DC i've ever seen. Focused, calm, and decisive in his attack. At the end of the day he's just not good enough against Jones. I have zero interest in watching Jones-Lesnar. It makes sense as a cash grab fight. Miocic would be an interesting opponent.

Sucks that Woodley got booed out of the arena. I was hella entertained watching him defend the takedowns. Masterful performance. Dana White forgets that this was GSP a few years ago. I still want to see GSP-Woodley.

Evinger was a sloppy shitty opponent for Cyborg. I hope they make the Holm fight happen as i think from a technical standpoint it'll be very entertaining.
 
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