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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

There’s only a handful of teams interested in another team’s junk. It’s not a liquid market. And there’s opportunity cost involved in always expecting max returns
 
CH1 said:
There’s only a handful of teams interested in your junk. It’s not a liquid market. And there’s opportunity cost involved in always expecting max returns
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I mean, I’m not particularly fussed about the return, I just want the peace of mind of knowing I’ll never have to watch him play a shift for this team again.
 
CH1 said:
There’s only a handful of teams interested in another team’s junk. It’s not a liquid market. And there’s opportunity cost involved in always expecting max returns
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I remember reading some stories about that when AA was GM of the Jays. He was constantly talking to everyone about everything and some front offices were really wary about him because they knew he was hunting for their mistakes. You can become a victim of your work ethic and reputation very, very quickly in what is a really closed ecosystem of front office professionals.
 
LeafGm said:
I mean, I’m not particularly fussed about the return, I just want the peace of mind of knowing I’ll never have to watch him play a shift for this team again.
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You’re what they call a motivated seller

My comment was more directed at LOF in the LOF/ ME debate
 
MindzEye said:
I remember reading some stories about that when AA was GM of the Jays. He was constantly talking to everyone about everything and some front offices were really wary about him because they knew he was hunting for their mistakes. You can become a victim of your work ethic and reputation very, very quickly in what is a really closed ecosystem of front office professionals.
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Definitely. That’s why in actuality you don’t want to hose anyone that badly in any single trade — better to stack little wins (with the occasional homer) so people stil want to play poker with you
 
I think fans would be surprised how many GMs like each other as friends and do favors for one another while still trying to ice the best roster they can.

I think Simmons butchered his question badly re Chayka but there is a way to wonder how the other GMs feel about him
 
MindzEye said:
But again, and kind of importantly, when you have a whole ass team to build your timing matters more than obsessive min/maxing on each transaction.

For example, we're trying to trade Brandon Carlo right now. There is a cost inherent to not trading him for what the market will give you right now (you have to watch him play hockey, he's a pending UFA at the end of the year, etc). So if someone offers you a 2nd rounder now and that's the best offer out there, do you take it or insist that you're waiting for someone to be stupid and give you the mythical 1st for Carlo + Maccelli?

Too early, or too late is indecipherable from being wrong. The market is what it is when you try to access it to make a transaction. That stupidity theoretically exists in the market at all times doesn't change that.
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Oh I fully agree with this. I’ve never said every transaction needs to be maxed out. I think I’ve said several times, try to find a sucker for a rinsing, but right now I’m taking whatever the best offer for Carlo and Maccelli is and moving on. Blood out of a turnip and all.
 
CH1 said:
There’s only a handful of teams interested in another team’s junk. It’s not a liquid market. And there’s opportunity cost involved in always expecting max returns
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Yup, I agree with this too. It’s that handful that you focus on but not forever. At some point, you make the best move you can.
 
CH1 said:
Definitely. That’s why in actuality you don’t want to hose anyone that badly in any single trade — better to stack little wins (with the occasional homer) so people stil want to play poker with you
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Disagree with this though. You don’t turn down the Gilmour for Leeman deal because you fear people will know you’re a wolf. You do as many as you can - some of these GMs won’t be around to talk about them or hold them against you later, see Treliving, Brad.

I also think that the best managers make deals that most don’t even realize is a rinsing until later, because of superior value judgment that isn’t evident, hence the other party’s agreement to trade in the first place.
 
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