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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

If Carlo's value is even just one 2nd, then adding Crapcelli plus other random fluff might squeeze a late 1st instead or an additional 2nd.

We shit on these losers constantly, but one is still a big RHD on a cheap final year and still just 29, while the other little shit is just 25 and has proven that he has 50-60 point power if you give him the opportunities he would never get with us. A team that needs roster players could be inclined. Ottawa holding that 32nd overall, with the silliness they've put on display, are ripe for the picking on this front.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
If Carlo's value is even just one 2nd, then adding Crapcelli plus other random fluff might squeeze a late 1st instead or an additional 2nd.

We shit on these losers constantly, but one is still a big RHD on a cheap final year and still just 29, while the other little shit is just 25 and has proven that he has 50-60 point power if you give him the opportunities he would never get with us. A team that needs roster players could be inclined. Ottawa holding that 32nd overall, with the silliness they've put on display, are ripe for the picking on this front.
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Why do you assume the same team that wants Carlo has a need or interest in Macelli as well and the 7ish M to support it.

You cant just keep adding salary into a deal cause you dont want the player anymore and thin the value of the trade goes up.
 
Okay, so I'm going to help you out a bit with this. You're not going to listen, because you don't, but I'm going to do it anyway.

This....is a draft slot value chart:

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Each NHL team has their own, but they're all more or less identical to the point where some teams have published theirs because no one cares if anyone else knows how they value a pick.

So, a "2nd" that is say, 45th overall is worth 75 points. A 3rd is worth ~20 points. You're not getting someone to give up an asset (a 1st) worth 140-180 points (a late 1st) for Carlo (2nd = ~75 points) and Maccelli (3rd & 5th = ~28 points).
 
I don't need to listen to this because no one else does either, unless you think all the trades involving picks that we ever see follow this chart.

What did Carlo himself get just over a year ago?
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
If you dont think GM's use charts like this or exactly this, you are a complete moron
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Listen, you fucking asshole, I'm tired of your gratuitous insults every time you disagree with something.

Shut your fucking face and put me on ignore if you can't communicate like a normal human being, instead of the fucking loudmouth human dumpster that you are.
 
MindzEye said:
Okay, so I'm going to help you out a bit with this. You're not going to listen, because you don't, but I'm going to do it anyway.

This....is a draft slot value chart:

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Each NHL team has their own, but they're all more or less identical to the point where some teams have published theirs because no one cares if anyone else knows how they value a pick.

So, a "2nd" that is say, 45th overall is worth 75 points. A 3rd is worth ~20 points. You're not getting someone to give up an asset (a 1st) worth 140-180 points (a late 1st) for Carlo (2nd = ~75 points) and Maccelli (3rd & 5th = ~28 points).
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As for you, who says Carlo is worth definitively a 2nd and Maccelli definitively a 3rd and 5th?

These are random subjective values you are assigning to them. One team might not want to give up a 7th for Carlo, and another might want to give up their 1st. Every team has its own set of unique needs, wants, and circumstances. If everything in negotiations and trades were simply a matter of assigned values and simple addition, what the fuck are teams paying GMs millions of dollars a year to go out and do? Just have your Claude get in touch with my Claude and get it done for free.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
As for you, who says Carlo is worth definitively a 2nd and Maccelli definitively a 3rd and 5th?
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The best information we have is that Carlo is out in the market and that we're asking "middle round" picks. Which sounds like a 2nd and a 4th or some shit at best. As for Maccelli, when has the market ever shown significant interest in him? We picked him up for a conditional 3rd a year ago.

Two players that you vocally hate having on your team yet you think there's great value out there for them. Sorry mate, Treliving doesn't have a new job yet.

LeafOfFaith said:
If everything in negotiations and trades were simply a matter of assigned values and simple addition, what the fuck are teams paying GMs millions of dollars a year to go out and do?
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Picks have assigned value in relation to each other. This is a fact of the industry, do what you want with that information. What a player is worth in picks is obviously subjective.
 
MindzEye said:
Okay, so I'm going to help you out a bit with this. You're not going to listen, because you don't, but I'm going to do it anyway.

This....is a draft slot value chart:

iu


Each NHL team has their own, but they're all more or less identical to the point where some teams have published theirs because no one cares if anyone else knows how they value a pick.

So, a "2nd" that is say, 45th overall is worth 75 points. A 3rd is worth ~20 points. You're not getting someone to give up an asset (a 1st) worth 140-180 points (a late 1st) for Carlo (2nd = ~75 points) and Maccelli (3rd & 5th = ~28 points).
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MindzEye said:
The best information we have is that Carlo is out in the market and that we're asking "middle round" picks. Which sounds like a 2nd and a 4th or some shit at best. As for Maccelli, when has the market ever shown significant interest in him? We picked him up for a conditional 3rd a year ago.

Two players that you vocally hate having on your team yet you think there's great value out there for them. Sorry mate, Treliving doesn't have a new job yet.



Picks have assigned value in relation to each other. This is a fact of the industry, do what you want with that information. What a player is worth in picks is obviously subjective.
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Many other players I hate routinely get better value than I would personally pay for them. That doesn't mean anything.

And the subjective aspect of this is where you earn your money. Even if not, if you take your average 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks that one random rumor (Carlo) and past value (Maccelli) have you citing as the basis for their value, don't you end up with more than the value of the 32nd overall based on your chart? Maybe not the average, but you can create a combination that easily does.
 
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