The Official Post-Bitch 2025-26 Regular Season Thread
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MyNameIsJonas
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By all accounts Gillis got fuckd over working under one of the worst ownership structures in the sport and is really good.
MyNameIsJonas
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Also i heard Nick Kypreos say this today
" If I'm writing a book I gotta be all in. I wanna know everything, like where the money goes"
" If I'm writing a book I gotta be all in. I wanna know everything, like where the money goes"
Seems like a good start is to tap into the consiglieri of a recent Stanley Cup champion, and not necessarily the front man. Aka not Ken Holland but Jim Nill kind of thing, using a dated example. Get the up and coming brains behind the operation. Then I think it comes down to having a good trusting relationship between ownership and that new guy and have a long runway. Trust the vision/process( no Sixers/hinkie here lol) and don’t get bogged down in the weeds of corporate meddling and uninformed mandates. Thats why I am not against Sonny Mehta from the panthers.
Basically run it like a good hobby train set with love and care and not on the basis of X playoff home days over Y years. Long term planning to build a organization with standards and culture of excellence instead of usine short term shortcuts to just make the playoffs for the sake of it. The Leafs need to cultivate an identity and stick to it. And finally have the Best scouting( amateur and professional) in the nhl. No more shortcuts, cutting corners and taking things for granted. In the Cliff Fletcher/pat Quinn years, we relied on block buster trades and unlimited financial resources to ice competitive teams (especially in the late 90s/early 2000s just before the 2004/05 lockout) now with a hard salary cap system since 2005, the Leafs still havent adapted to the new rules. Time for a change.
Basically run it like a good hobby train set with love and care and not on the basis of X playoff home days over Y years. Long term planning to build a organization with standards and culture of excellence instead of usine short term shortcuts to just make the playoffs for the sake of it. The Leafs need to cultivate an identity and stick to it. And finally have the Best scouting( amateur and professional) in the nhl. No more shortcuts, cutting corners and taking things for granted. In the Cliff Fletcher/pat Quinn years, we relied on block buster trades and unlimited financial resources to ice competitive teams (especially in the late 90s/early 2000s just before the 2004/05 lockout) now with a hard salary cap system since 2005, the Leafs still havent adapted to the new rules. Time for a change.
Yeah, i wish we would hire like the 2026 version of a cup winning consiglieri in an AGM, director of player personnel or some other support role. I guess there’s recent grads like Darche. Who would be the next guy. Also what’s Lecavalier been doing in Montreal? Would he be young GM candidate later, would he be credited with Montreal’s rise etc.
Struggling to find examples. Just hope we don’t keep rehashing Blues personnel.
I’m struggling to think of an analogy. But it’s almost like Bryan McCabe right now . The former all-star Leafs defenseman is currently the Director of player personnel in Florida. Part of 2 back to back Stanley Cups. I wouldn’t say McCabe is the brains behind Florida. But he could be? He doesnt look the part but you cant judge a book on his cover sometimes.
I know the Leafs would deal with him and live through his early tenure growing pains as a full Time GM. But it would be short term pain for long term gain.
I know the Leafs would deal with him and live through his early tenure growing pains as a full Time GM. But it would be short term pain for long term gain.
Feyd
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Eh? The Quinn teams had that.
MyNameIsJonas
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Personally i think Chicago should offer all the money to Tuch so Bedard has a competant friend, but i suspect better teams will offer him similar.
hockeylover
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I have not a lot of doubt that a good GM could find a lot of useful applications of AI tbh.
But if the CEO thinks the GM sucks, I just want the CEO to fire the GM, not try to micromanage the trade deadline himself with AI.
But if the CEO thinks the GM sucks, I just want the CEO to fire the GM, not try to micromanage the trade deadline himself with AI.
Flyers, Red wings, Devils, sabres of that era Also played in the sand the same way so the Leafs under pat Quinn didnt stand out much from The rest of the League. And the Leafs were a soft team who relied more on speed and skill( and very good goaltending from cujo) during the first full two seasons of the Quinn era. And Even then, he still got rid of softer players like Johnson and modin and brought Tucker in. But in the Summer of 2000 after a tough/ humiliation defeat to the devils in round 2, in which the Leafs got shutdown defensively and bullied physically, Quinn decided to go the gritty/tough route and signed Dave Manson, Shayne corson and Gary Roberts then traded disgruntled Alexander karpovtsev to Chicago for Bryan mcabe 3 months later. The Leafs then became a physical/gritty team until the lockout season.
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MindzEye
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I mean, when was the last time they bought into an organization style of play and made decisions from top to bottom in search of players who could fill that?
Pat Quinn. That was the last time. He wanted fast hockey that was tough and had good goaltending. All of his teams in Toronto were built along the lines of that philosophy. We have not have a coherent philosophy on how the game is supposed to be played since. We had a brief opportunity to build a team based on outscoring the universe and winning Stanley Cup games 5-4, but we immediately got scared and insisted on building a gritensity team around 5 soft offensively players.
MindzEye
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They're great at scrubbing huge amount of data efficiently. Throw it at your analytics database, give it a set of attributes or results that your nerds say generates positive outcomes and ask it to scrub that data. Shit, you can use it identify player trends based on linemate attributes, looking for players that have played well alongside players with similar attributes to those on your teams, etc, etc, etc.
Yeah all sorts of shit to save human analysts time.
MindzEye
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I differ. I think Chicago should be in their "identify all of the misfit toys" era still and saving their long term cap situation for when the young core + misfit toys get good.