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OT: American Politics

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voyager said:
Cops aren't cannon fodder. Nor are they cowards for bringing a gun to a knife fight. A knife is a lethal weapon, and can cause severe injury during a scuffle.
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A knife can cause injury? Thanks tips.

I don't recall saying there was no risk involved, but when the risk is a 3 inch blade wielded by one teenager against multiple cops that are presumably trained in techniques that can be used to disarm, and also armed with non-lethal weapons like pepper spray and a taser to further tilt the "scuffle" in their favour, I think it's pretty justifiable to call these swine "cowards". They weighed the small risk of one of them being seriously injured against the life of an 18 year-old, and they made the selfish and cowardly choice.

JaysCyYoung said:
Cops aren't like infallible or invulnerable to harm like David Dunn from the movie Unbreakable. They are simply ordinary human beings with a badge, a uniform, and a protective weapon designed to prevent harm from coming to them or others while performing the duties of their profession.

To act like they are supposed to put themselves at risk for the sake of a potentially volatile, unknown party's personal safety over theirs is downright silly. If a potentially lethal existential threat is presented to them they are trained to eliminate that threat without hesitation to protect themselves and bystanders.
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There were no bystanders. The kid was all alone on an empty streetcar armed with a tiny knife. The only risk was to the officers, and the risk that they were facing "lethal force" was minimal. But instead of saving this kid's life, these gutless cowards riddled him with bullets.
 
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After the Boston Bombing events I don't think police really care what some people on the internet think of them subduing a teenager from the Middle East.

And yeah I personally think it's funny.
 
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Go ahead and taser a knife wielding person. And when they fall on that blade the result is close to the same.

Who knows what this guy had on his mind. Maybe he was suicidal. Death by cops happens alot.
 
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Man, I would never want to be a cop.

Every single thing you do is second-guessed and evaluated a thousand different ways when in reality you had a split second to react and address a dangerous and volatile situation.

Not to mention literally everything is recorded now.
 
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TimHorton said:
So once you pop 9, 9 FFS, bullets into him...........you tase him why?
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I don't know.

But maybe, just maybe there is a reason. You weren't there. You watched a blurry iphone video from 50 feet away and now feel the right to ask questions.
 
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The right to ask questions? Have you lost your bloody mind.
I think anytime someone pops 9 bullets into someone, then tases the guy, we should be asking questions. Lots and lots of questions.
 
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Yeah, the coppers really have it tough. Imagine getting questioned about filling a kid with 9 bullets and then tazing him while he's bleeding out.

It must also be tough getting off scott free (after getting full pay to sit at home) pretty much no matter what crimes you're accused of.
 
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Every single thing you do is second-guessed and evaluated a thousand different ways when in reality you had a split second to react and address a dangerous and volatile situation.
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About 30 seconds after they stopped shooting they actually tasered him – you could hear the taser
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From the article earlier. Count to 30 right now, and tell me they couldn't evaluate the 9 bullets had done the trick.
 
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TimHorton said:
From the article earlier. Count to 30 right now, and tell me they couldn't evaluate the 9 bullets had done the trick.
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So they tazed him for jollies? The one officer just has a thing for tazing dead people? Is that your suggestion?

Or is it possible that there was a reason for the deployment of that taser...which of course as of now is based on some bystanders hearing.
 
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This isn't at all that difficult to comprehend: don't brandish a weapon at police officers and you won't be shot. Pretty simple concept to follow, especially at the age of eighteen.
 
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LeafGm said:
Yeah, the coppers really have it tough. Imagine getting questioned about filling a kid with 9 bullets and then tazing him while he's bleeding out.

It must also be tough getting off scott free (after getting full pay to sit at home) pretty much no matter what crimes you're accused of.
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And yet they still tried to perform CPR and resuscitation techniques on him afterwards, the monsters!
 
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corksens said:
Man, I would never want to be a cop.

Every single thing you do is second-guessed and evaluated a thousand different ways when in reality you had a split second to react and address a dangerous and volatile situation.

Not to mention literally everything is recorded now.
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But...that's the ****ing job. You're given a tremendous amount of authority to wield, that has to come with some responsibility, no?

I mean, there certainly has to be a line somewhere concerning acceptable behaviour and not. Where is it then if tasing a dead dude after shooting him...9...times isn't it?
 
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