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The Official Post-Bitch 2025-26 Regular Season Thread

I think a 1st for Roy is pretty good.

I don't think he's been playing 3C for the avs and i'm not sure he did much in vegas either. More of a 3W/4C.
 
CH1 said:
Not fire worthy, is my point. I wonder what Pelley actually saw that screamed disaster.
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The process. Not necessarily the results. He felt they were disorganized and didn't have a data driven process or any process at all when making decisions. I'm reading in between the lines a bit but that's the impression I got when I heard Pelley speak about it in his corporation gobblygook way.
 
I think it’s clear he was concerned before the trade deadline - enough to do some prep work to be involved.

At that point, I feel like sane organizations would fire said GM and appoint an interim GM with a modicum of smarts.
 
hockeylover said:
Look, you’ll get absolutely no argument at all from me that Treliving was a total moron but Pelley still comes off looking pretty terrible here. The response when you think your GM sucks can’t be to wait til the deadline and bring in AI trade proposals to your dumbass GM.
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it's true.

i think Brad's skill is that he's probably a good talker that knows how to pretend to sound data and process-driven.

Pelley was probably legit shocked that a guy like Treliving could actually have made it this far in his career. Pelley probably not used to how idiotic the hockey world is, hiring absolute incompetents many times over - the types that would never get hired in any other industry, and not even in most other sports.
 
CH1 said:
Not fire worthy, is my point. I wonder what Pelley actually saw that screamed disaster.
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All of this is 3rd hand, but again as the story goes, it was more of a process thing. It was pure vibes, scrambling to make phone calls with 30 minutes left until the deadline (Laughton). No strategic plan about who or what was for sale, just a bunch of random horse trading with no direction. Watching how the sausage was made had Pelley severely questioning his competence. It wasn't necessarily about the specific outcomes of each trade, which Pelley is the first to admit that he's not qualified to assess.
 
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and yeah, I think Zeke's point can't be underestimated here. Hockey front offices have traditionally been run in a way that wouldn't be tolerated by any other industry, and even within the sports industry, the NHL is archaic. Pelley expected some level of sophistication and ran full on into how old boys network hockey executives run multi billion dollar companies.
 
zeke said:
I think a 1st for Roy is pretty good.

I don't think he's been playing 3C for the avs and i'm not sure he did much in vegas either. More of a 3W/4C.
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He's not playing C for the Avs, yeah. They turned around and made the Kadri trade after the Roy trade was done. Kadri was their original target and the trade got shut down by Calgary. But Calgary, being another quality front office that absolutely has a clue of what they're doing, changed their mind after initially saying no and did the Kadri trade anyway. When the Avs paid for Roy, they thought they were bringing in a 3C.
 
One thing about Kyle, is that a guy like Pelley probably would have liked him. He didn't always make objective decisions based on data, but the guy had a process and the process was one of the things he always stressed throughout his time here. That's all a corporate guy like Pelley wants.
 
Preston said:
One thing about Kyle, is that a guy like Pelley probably would have liked him. He didn't always make objective decisions based on data, but the guy had a process and the process was one of the things he always stressed throughout his time here. That's all a corporate guy like Pelley wants.
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I was actually just typing about how people can say whatever they want about Dubas but he was a process guy and there’s still assistant GMs in our organization that worked in that framework and could’ve taken over in an interim role if Pelley knew Treliving sucked and seemingly prepped for it.
 
Preston said:
One thing about Kyle, is that a guy like Pelley probably would have liked him. He didn't always make objective decisions based on data, but the guy had a process and the process was one of the things he always stressed throughout his time here. That's all a corporate guy like Pelley wants.
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I guess I’m surprised Tre couldn’t even pretend to look good. Strange hire by Shanny
 
CH1 said:
I guess I’m surprised Tre couldn’t even pretend to look good. Strange hire by Shanny
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Tre will be employed within the next 6-12 months. You underestimate how dumb this league is. Any organization that is even slightly progressive tends to lap the field in this league. Whereas in other leagues progressive is the baseline.
 
I mean there's a salary cap but we really don't have all that much parity. Long standing elite teams and basement dwellers. It shouldn't be this way. But some teams choose to use non traditional resources and others don't. It's really as simple as that. Either that or getting lucky and drafting McDavid.

That's why I don't really buy the need for a complete rebuild and sucking dick for a decade. Any competent, forward thinking management can turn a team competitive in a couple years in a league with this many dumb organizations.
 
Any smart GM will look at this roster and see how easy it is to ditch the crap and upgrade around still very elite players and be very good right away.

Of course that would be massively helped by a top-5 pick.
 
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