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Corky27 said:
I can't wait till Franson and Kadri are signed so we can stop saying how the Leafs chose Bernier/Clarkson/Bozak over them.
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Leafs are doing what they have to do, shop Franson. They cannot get anyone to take Phaneuf. No one wants him and they cannot keep both Franson and Kadri. They feel they have to at the very least sign Kadri.
 
why do you keep doing this to yourself?

you could just put "Wouldn't surprise me if...." before that post, and you'd get zero heat for it if you're wrong, and plenty of respect if you were right.


but hey, if they're shopping the next Larry Robinson, they should be able to get a king's ransom for him. Eberle? Nugent-Hopkins? Duchene? what do you think is a fair return?
 
zeke said:
why do you keep doing this to yourself?

you could just put "Wouldn't surprise me if...." before that post, and you'd get zero heat for it if you're wrong, and plenty of respect if you were right.


but hey, if they're shopping the next Larry Robinson, they should be able to get a king's ransom for him. Eberle? Nugent-Hopkins? Duchene? what do you think is a fair return?
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We'd still have cap problems :(
 
Interesting, but remote, possibility.

What if we traded both Kadri and Franson right now to the same team?

Wonder what kind of stud we could get back, who maybe alone is making around $6M or $7M and will be easier to fit in.
 
The Leafs need to take advantage of the fact that they can afford to have Phaneuf, Gardiner, Rielly, Franson, Gunnarsson all in the lineup at the same time. Because once Rielly and Gardiner are off their entry level deals, the Leafs are going to have to make some tough decisions because they won't be able to afford all of them.

The Leafs have a rather large window because they're still very young, but I'd make some aggressive moves this year and next to try and strengthen their chances of a cup while they have some key core young guys on entry level / cheap deals.
 
With less than four weeks remaining before training camp opens, Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Dave Nonis said Friday his goal of re-signing restricted free agents Nazem Kadri and Cody Franson has not changed.

The Maple Leafs have a shade under $5 million remaining under the NHL salary cap, according to Capgeek.com. They can be over the cap by 10 percent until rosters have to be submitted prior to the start of the regular season.

Nonis said the intention is to have both players under contract by the time camp begins in September.

"From our standpoint, we have enough cap space in our minds to get both players signed and that's what we intend to do," Nonis told NHL.com during a phone interview. "There are definitely ways of making it work. That's our intention."

Nonis said there is nothing to update on the status of the negotiations with Kadri and Franson, but said he's not deterred by the fact it is mid-August and neither the Maple Leafs' No. 2 center nor their top offensive defenseman from last season are under contract.

Kadri, 22, had 44 points in 48 games and is coming off his entry-level contract that carried a $1.72 million salary-cap charge. Franson, 26, had 29 points in 45 games while playing on a one-year, $1.2 million contract.

"There have been quiet periods [in the negotiations], but that doesn't bother me at all," Nonis said. "That's par for the course in these types of situations. I also think it's a different year a little bit with the cap dropping [from $70.2 million to $64.3 million]. I think there is recalibration that needs to take place on both sides. You look around the League and I think that's happening. There are a lot of good UFAs [unrestricted free agents] that aren't signed because of the amount of money left in the marketplace."

Nonis also said he hasn't had any negotiations with captain Dion Phaneuf on a contract extension because "we've been focusing on other issues right now."

Phaneuf has one year remaining on a six-year contract that carries a $6.5 million salary-cap charge. If unsigned, he can become an unrestricted free agent in July 2014.

"Obviously Dion is a core part of our team," Nonis said. "He's our captain. He's fit well into Toronto and our group and there's no reason to think he won't be here for the long run."
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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=680381
 
"Obviously Dion is a core part of our team," Nonis said. "He's our captain. He's fit well into Toronto and our group and there's no reason to think he won't be here for the long run."
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I can't wait until the extension, just to see Teeds' reaction...that obviously Nonis went rogue and handed out a 50+ million dollar contract while the business people want Phaneuf gone and are irate, etc, etc.

Good times ahead.
 
What do you expect them to say? Good lord, what a Fred Flinstone copy and paste argument that is. The guy is loathed by head office and has been offered around the league. No one wants him, cept for giving back a horrible salary in return.

Again, the reason the Leafs are fffed up, is because the stupidly thought someone would want our captain for goodies. An overpaid pussy that cost game seven is not wanted anywhere but in his own family right now.
 
Mainstream press? Like the press that emblazoned Angelina cutting off her tired ole titties and causing all kinds of foolish women around the world to do the same? Here is the article that makes the most sense to me, course it is NOT mainstream. Its title?? Angelina Jo l ie stock promotion. The chart on the stock,SAYS IT ALL. Nothing more needs to be said. That my little Barneys, is going DEEP. Not being a sheep. http://www.naturalnews.com/040365_angelina_jolie_gene_patents_supreme_court_decision.html
 
organicsteroid said:
What do you expect them to say? Good lord, what a Fred Flinstone copy and paste argument that is. The guy is loathed by head office and has been offered around the league. No one wants him, cept for giving back a horrible salary in return.

Again, the reason the Leafs are fffed up, is because the stupidly thought someone would want our captain for goodies. An overpaid pussy that cost game seven is not wanted anywhere but in his own family right now.
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So, if nobody is willing to simply take Dion for nothing, we're just going to let him walk and not sign him to an extension, right?
 
They see Franson as the new guy. Phaneuf, is a good player, but he has a bizarre drop out of nowhere ability at bad moment. Rightly or wrongly, upper management blame him, Grabovski(for losing the key faceoff) and Reimer for losing that series to Boston.

They assumed WRONGLY, that they could first get assets for Phaneuf. Then, being a little more desperate, they tried trading him for first and/or second round picks. No go again. Now they cannot even find someone to take him for a bag.

Is he a good player? Yes, most of the time imo. But I have been agonizing over how bad the Leafs are, for a long, long time. And did he totally PUSS out? Absolutely. And is there no worse time to puss out than in the last ten minutes of game seven? Well, not to my knowledge.

Nonis can tell you guys and the press whatever he wants. He has a HUMUNGOUS problem. He has two of our top six players, unsigned, and NOT FUGGING HAPPY AT ALL.

And Carlyle does NOT want to see that Cro-Magnon in a Leaf uniform.

And is Darren Dreger one of my contacts? Not unless he is signed up to one of my newsletters, ,but at least someone with a LOT more knowledge of the inner goings on in MLSE land than anyone here(me included) had the balls to disclose that the leafs despite what LIES Nonis tells the mainstream talking heads, THE LEAFS ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF CRO MAG MAN.
 
if carlyle despises phaneuf so much than he must really hate every other defenseman on the team, who he thought were so inferior to phaneuf that he had to play phaneuf for 3 straight minutes at the end of the most important hockey game this team has played since 2004.

unless you are saying that he did it to hang phaneuf out to dry. which would mean that randy carlyle hates phaneuf so much that he sabotaged his team just to make a point.

which is ridiculous.
 
as for them being displeased with grabovski because of losing a faceoff.... it's pretty clear that they bought him out because they needed the cap space. they saved $1.3mn per for the next four seasons by bringing back bozak and dumping grabovski.

and the reason why buying out that contract was on the table was pretty clear. grabovski is a perfectly fine faceoff man. the problem was that they gave him a $5.5 cap hit, and would have been locked in for four more seasons, and he totally shit the bed.

if you include the playoffs, his line from last season is really really ugly. 55 gp 9 g 9 a -20 (as if his 48 gp 9 g 7 a -10 regular season wasn't bad enough).

and his struggles didn't begin in 12-13. they started around the mideway point of 11-12.

since that time (again, including the playoffs) his line:

85 gp 14 g 20 a 34 pts -25

he turns 30 years old next season, and is signed for 4 more years at $5.5

they didn't buy him out because he lost a few draws.

they bought him out because he played like shit for a full calendar, is about to hit 30 and has a huge contract.
 
organicsteroid said:
They see Franson as the new guy. Phaneuf, is a good player, but he has a bizarre drop out of nowhere ability at bad moment. Rightly or wrongly, upper management blame him, Grabovski(for losing the key faceoff) and Reimer for losing that series to Boston.

They assumed WRONGLY, that they could first get assets for Phaneuf. Then, being a little more desperate, they tried trading him for first and/or second round picks. No go again. Now they cannot even find someone to take him for a bag.

Is he a good player? Yes, most of the time imo. But I have been agonizing over how bad the Leafs are, for a long, long time. And did he totally PUSS out? Absolutely. And is there no worse time to puss out than in the last ten minutes of game seven? Well, not to my knowledge.

Nonis can tell you guys and the press whatever he wants. He has a HUMUNGOUS problem. He has two of our top six players, unsigned, and NOT FUGGING HAPPY AT ALL.

And Carlyle does NOT want to see that Cro-Magnon in a Leaf uniform.

And is Darren Dreger one of my contacts? Not unless he is signed up to one of my newsletters, ,but at least someone with a LOT more knowledge of the inner goings on in MLSE land than anyone here(me included) had the balls to disclose that the leafs despite what LIES Nonis tells the mainstream talking heads, THE LEAFS ARE TRYING TO GET RID OF CRO MAG MAN.
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