Leafs' Prospect/Marlies Discussion Thread!
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BeLeafer
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Marchment took player of the week honours. Kid looked great in training camp. I thought he was a darkhorse but never thought he'd put up these kind of numbers even over just 9 games (5 goals, 11 pts).
Could be a blip or could be a late bloomer that fillls the need for a beast who can score.
Marchment took player of the week honours. Kid looked great in training camp. I thought he was a darkhorse but never thought he'd put up these kind of numbers even over just 9 games (5 goals, 11 pts).
Could be a blip or could be a late bloomer that fillls the need for a beast who can score.
LeafOfFaith
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Why isn't he on LGM's chart?
Why isn't he on LGM's chart?
LeafGm
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So, that would be players signed to NHL contracts, and draft picks who's rights haven't expired yet. I also generally have a cut-off at 24 years of age, because past that point, all you'll find is players like Justin Holl or Ben Smith, who obviously aren't prospects in any real sense of the word.
So, since Marchment is only signed to an AHL deal, and technically he's an unrestricted free agent who's rights aren't owned by any NHL team, he doesn't make the list. But if and when the Leafs sign him to an NHL contract, I'll add him to the list and track him with the rest.
What my chart represents is every "prospect" who's rights are owned exclusively by the Toronto Maple Leafs.
So, that would be players signed to NHL contracts, and draft picks who's rights haven't expired yet. I also generally have a cut-off at 24 years of age, because past that point, all you'll find is players like Justin Holl or Ben Smith, who obviously aren't prospects in any real sense of the word.
So, since Marchment is only signed to an AHL deal, and technically he's an unrestricted free agent who's rights aren't owned by any NHL team, he doesn't make the list. But if and when the Leafs sign him to an NHL contract, I'll add him to the list and track him with the rest.
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Heard Gord Miller say along the lines today that there have been a bunch of studies that show Euro's who did well in the NHL often spent some time in Europe before coming over. He was talking about this in reference to Liljegren. Have never heard this before.
Heard Gord Miller say along the lines today that there have been a bunch of studies that show Euro's who did well in the NHL often spent some time in Europe before coming over. He was talking about this in reference to Liljegren. Have never heard this before.
LeafGm
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It's funny, I've seen a few people in the media argue that the Leafs are making a mistake by not sending Liljegren back to Sweden. They all talk very generally about how young Swedish players do well when they're given more time to develop at home. And you know what? In general, I think they're right.
But guys like Miller always leave out one of the most important factors in Liljegren's case: his team in the Swedish league is a complete ****ing disaster. Through 17 games, they have four wins, are in last place by a wide margin, and they've been out-scored by a 70-36 margin. So does that sound like a good environment for our 18 year-old top prospect to develop in?
Another thing guys like Miller don't bring up: last year, Liljegren's SHL team did no favours for him or his development by constantly bouncing him around between four different teams in four different leagues. And when he did play in the SHL, they didn't give him much ice-time. So why would the Leafs want to put Timmy's development back into their hands?
It's funny, I've seen a few people in the media argue that the Leafs are making a mistake by not sending Liljegren back to Sweden. They all talk very generally about how young Swedish players do well when they're given more time to develop at home. And you know what? In general, I think they're right.
But guys like Miller always leave out one of the most important factors in Liljegren's case: his team in the Swedish league is a complete ****ing disaster. Through 17 games, they have four wins, are in last place by a wide margin, and they've been out-scored by a 70-36 margin. So does that sound like a good environment for our 18 year-old top prospect to develop in?
Another thing guys like Miller don't bring up: last year, Liljegren's SHL team did no favours for him or his development by constantly bouncing him around between four different teams in four different leagues. And when he did play in the SHL, they didn't give him much ice-time. So why would the Leafs want to put Timmy's development back into their hands?
leafman101
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Liljegren is getting top pair minutes in the AHL this year, including PP time, compared to last year where he played 10 minutes a game and was yo-yo'd between teams and leagues.
To me its not even close which one is preferable for development. Only one option is actually interested in development.
Liljegren is getting top pair minutes in the AHL this year, including PP time, compared to last year where he played 10 minutes a game and was yo-yo'd between teams and leagues.
To me its not even close which one is preferable for development. Only one option is actually interested in development.
leafman101
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5v5 eTOI
1. Rosen - 8 gp, 17.1
2. Liljegren - 9 gp, 15.48
3. Holl - 14 gp, 14.89
4. Neilsen - 12 gp, 14.33
5. Marincin - 10 gp, 14.16
6. Dermott - 14 gp, 11.77
7. Valiev - 8 gp, 11.7
8. LoVerde - 13 gp, 9.61
5v5 eTOI
1. Rosen - 8 gp, 17.1
2. Liljegren - 9 gp, 15.48
3. Holl - 14 gp, 14.89
4. Neilsen - 12 gp, 14.33
5. Marincin - 10 gp, 14.16
6. Dermott - 14 gp, 11.77
7. Valiev - 8 gp, 11.7
8. LoVerde - 13 gp, 9.61
leafman101
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The AHL doesn't keep track of ice time so no ideal how accurate that actually is. Probably not very. I know he has lost some time to Liljegren and Rosen, particularly on the PP, but not sure its that much ES.
Its also just a good deep D. Rosen, Liljegren Marincin, Dermott maybe even Holl could challenge for an NHL spot.
The AHL doesn't keep track of ice time so no ideal how accurate that actually is. Probably not very. I know he has lost some time to Liljegren and Rosen, particularly on the PP, but not sure its that much ES.
Its also just a good deep D. Rosen, Liljegren Marincin, Dermott maybe even Holl could challenge for an NHL spot.
LeafGm
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It seems more like an Auston Matthews "overabundance of caution" type of situation.
I don't get the impression that it's anything serious.
It seems more like an Auston Matthews "overabundance of caution" type of situation.
Yep, they were.