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hockeylover said:
I still don't really think I've seen any examples of what they're being taught that it doesn't come out later as having been exaggerated or outright lied about so far. I don't have any kids either so... open to hearing about specific examples?

My parents were loving but also total shit when it came to talking about anything considered taboo or sexual with me so when I hear parents say everything should be left up to what parents teach their kids, well... I'm not entirely sure that's great. Basically learned everything on my own, from other kids, or in school and very vividly remember being taught about the concept of consent in school as early as Grade 1.
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Human Development and Sexual Health education by grade | Health and Physical Education in Grades 1–8

Learn about Ontario’s 2019 elementary Health and Physical Education curriculum.
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The creators of these guidelines need to have a WAY better PR team. The fearmongers are winning. They need to explain the curriculum and what it means in a real sense. It's 99.9% about taking the pressure off of tweens and letting them be who they want to be. For loving and open families it probably changes very little,
 
Montana said:
100%.



Yeah as much as I try to educate myself so I have answers for friends when they bring up some angle of it they take issue with….I’ve still been too lazy to read a single book on the topic.

to @hockeylover ’s point, the biggest issues people often seem to have, is often over something people are claiming is occurring that isn’t even true.

Was talking with an ex-gf here on PEI when I got back, who has a couple girls in school….and she told me with 100% certainty that it’s got to the point where they have cat little boxes in class, for kids who identify as cats……had to get multiple articles to convince her that this was a completely fabricated hoax. 🤦🏻‍♂️
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yeah my experience has been that most of the things folks are vehemently opposed to are things that are not happening in any schools.

it's all a big disinfo op.

now, that's a bit reductionist, there are lots of actual bigots out there. but I'm not yet convinced their in the majority. a lot of folks are opposed to bogeymen that are made up or do not exist, but are fuelled by social media BS and outright propaganda.
 
Montana said:
I do think porn should be banned for kids, until they’ve at least had a few adolescent years watching entire movies on Showcase, waiting for whatever scene this graphic was referring to that night…


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hockeylover said:
Being a teacher must be pretty hard these days though. When I was a kid, parents knew they didn't know much. Everyone thinks they're smart now since they can all "do their own research".
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amazing how much damage they’re collectively doing to their kids, by putting teachers in a position of having to be as hands off, as humanly possible.
 
In some ways it was better when parents didn't really give a damn. I had great parents, but they couldn't care less about what I was being taught in school. Made things a lot easier for me.
 
hockeylover said:
Just skimmed it. Do you have a specific concern there? Honestly don't see any. Looks age appropriate.
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No in fact I haven’t had time to read through it. I was just posting a response to your post saying that you hadn’t seen any examples of what they were being taught.

My kids are now in their 40’s so it is not really a pressing issue for me.
 
Now that I think about it, old reruns of “Red Shoe Diaries”, “Latin Lover” and random art house NC-17 films on Showcase were what I got as a preteen instead of any actual sex education from either my parents or Ontario’s school system.

Seeing as I turned out as such a perfectly well-adjusted human, maybe we just replace the sex ed curriculum with that?
 
hockeylover said:
I still don't really think I've seen any examples of what they're being taught that it doesn't come out later as having been exaggerated or outright lied about so far. I don't have any kids either so... open to hearing about specific examples?

My parents were loving but also total shit when it came to talking about anything considered taboo or sexual with me so when I hear parents say everything should be left up to what parents teach their kids, well... I'm not entirely sure that's great. Basically learned everything on my own, from other kids, or in school and very vividly remember being taught about the concept of consent in school as early as Grade 1.
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I saw one of the books that was at a k-8 school and definitely inapprorpriate. 5 year olds don’t need to see this:


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