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OT: American Politics

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Altair said:
All this means little unless the Democrats find a viable alternative for 2020.

I mean, it's unlikely that they find one of the most hated people in the country to run for them against trump again....right?
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We're not even close to the stage of people announcing that they are running. Wait til at least 2019 before this is a legit complaint.

Possibilities are just now getting named.

Joe Biden
Bernie
Ted Lieu
Al Franken
Elizabeth Warren
Chuck Schumer

All have been floated at the very, very preliminary stages, but thats all we are at right now. There will probably be even more.
 
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how hilarious is it that they actually thought the foreign trip was a success? historically disastrous with our allies, and now after empowering and arming the Saudis they're trying to push around other US ally neighbours.

even more hilarious that l'il donnie actually thinks he can broker peace in the mideast when he can't even broker peace amongst his personal White House entourage.
 
zeke said:
he'd win. and he'd defer to experts.
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Or...hire an expert?

The biggest issue in society in 2017, while at the same time being the least talked about is the war on expertise. Experts aren't to be trusted because something something conspiracy. We've reached some sort of weird idiot escape velocity where there are enough pure morons among us that we're moving backwards on the basic knowledge required to maintain civilization.

I'd kind of like to see that stop.
 
I'm not sure it will stop.

Mostly, we want reinforcement of our beliefs, our way of thinking, etc., and thanks to the internet you can always find someone who agrees with you and reinforces your view.
Youtube makes us all experts.

Mind you I think the pendulum will swing back to sanity for while...not sure when though.
 
CH1 said:
After a bad Trump experience, people will go back to voting for someone more "presidential" than a well intentioned movie star
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nah, only an outsider will beat trump. one that has gut level charisma and can speak our language.

but one who can tell people it's good for the government to provide healthcare. one who notneven the breitbart machine can undermine gut level trust in.
 
BKerr said:
We're not even close to the stage of people announcing that they are running. Wait til at least 2019 before this is a legit complaint.

Possibilities are just now getting named.

Joe Biden
Bernie
Ted Lieu
Al Franken
Elizabeth Warren
Chuck Schumer

All have been floated at the very, very preliminary stages, but thats all we are at right now. There will probably be even more.
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Cory Booker
 
This NSA STORY IS HUGE

Here is why.

I don't care if you like or hate Eichenwald... his interpretation here is correct.

All this time people have been saying Russians didn't hack voting machines and that is true.

But Russians had access to DNC voter rolls.

If Russians hacked voter rolls, in "voter ID" states, they could knock thousands off the eligible voters list by changing their first name, or changing their middle initial. With a roll of people likely to vote Democrat, they could do a lot of damage.

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/871853502414409728
 
This NSA STORY IS HUGE

Here is why.

I don't care if you like or hate Eichenwald... his interpretation here is correct.

All this time people have been saying Russians didn't hack voting machines and that is true.

But Russians had access to DNC voter rolls.

If Russians hacked voter rolls, in "voter ID" states, they could knock thousands off the eligible voters list by changing their first name, or changing their middle initial. With a roll of people likely to vote Democrat, they could do a lot of damage.

https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/871853502414409728
 
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