OT: CFL Thread
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deandebean
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In most of the cases yes, and probably so for Calvillo also. But there have been stars in the CFL that turned into stars in the NFL too: Doug Flutie, Warren Moon, Mervin Fernandez, Joe Theisman, Rocket Ismail, Joe Kapp, Cookie Gilchrist (spelling)...Heck, I've seen NFL stars fail miserably in the CFL too: Vince Ferragamo comes to mind, Fred Biletnikoff, David Overstreet, Ricky Williams (who sucked BAAAAD with Toronto, and then, got back in the NFL and was pretty solid).
The leagues are different, the systems are different. Somes teams from both leagues met in the 50's and 60's, with the NFL coming on top all the time. Let's remember that the NFL and AFL hadn't joined forces yet. The only time an AFL team met a CFL team, the CFL team came out of it as the winner, by a solid margin. But the AFL was the weakest of leagues during that era, even moreso than the CFL.
ug. 12, 1950
Ottawa
N.Y. Giants 20, Ottawa Rough Riders (CFL) 6
Aug. 11, 1951
Ottawa
N.Y. Giants 41, Ottawa Rough Riders (CFL) 18
Aug. 5, 1959
Toronto
Chicago Cardinals 53, Toronto Argonauts (CFL) 26
Aug. 3, 1960
Toronto
Pittsburgh Steelers 43, Toronto Argonauts (CFL) 16
Aug. 2, 1961
Toronto
St. Louis Cardinals 36, Toronto Argonauts (CFL) 7
Aug. 5, 1961
Montreal
Chicago Bears 34, Montreal Alouettes (CFL) 16
Aug. 8, 1961
Hamilton
Hamilton Tiger-Cats (CFL) 38, Buffalo Bills 21
Today, the story is different; the NFL teams being way ahead in talent and structure than the CFL teams. No doubt. The NFL is in a class of its own, just like the NHL and just like Major League Baseball.
But the leagues are way different in more sense than one. And for that only, it's very tough to compare the products. I'm more of an NFL guy, but I still cheer for the Als. I think the CFL fills a gap in Canada, where the NFL wouldn't thrive for many reasons.
Those who think that the NFL would succeed here have no clue. Canada doesn't have the same football culture, nor the same grassroots structure. Our american posters would be the first to say that football is as much part of their nature as hockey to us. I've been to some NFL games and I could never feel the same passion for football at any level here as I've felt at NFL fields. And they've told me that it's even worse at the college level. I can just imagine!
The CFL is good for Canada, because football, while being popular, is still a marginally practiced sport in this country. Kids do play it more and more in this province, but it is still a fraction of what goes on across the border. A fraction.
rouah
Banned
There is too much money involved in the NFL, no cities in Canada could be enough competitive financially to build a stadium for NFL standards and put the money to buy a franchise or going through expansion.
Yeah, CFL is affortable for Canadians, but compared to the quality of players and plays, they are way low under the NFL. No wonder CFL UFA's are signing with NFL teams, then when they get dumped, goes back with their CFL teams...
And its not even a logic league. Lets talk about the point for failure or lack of Canadians-only on CFL teams. Yet, we need American-born players to upgrade our league.
If the CFL wants to be different for real, well, they should mark the fields in meters, the common measure everywhere outside the U.S. Throw Americans out of the league, and try to have more than 8 teams, viable owners (I'm just thinking about all the Ottawa fiascos over the years), and potential good markets (Halifax, Quebec City, etc...)
Yeah, CFL is affortable for Canadians, but compared to the quality of players and plays, they are way low under the NFL. No wonder CFL UFA's are signing with NFL teams, then when they get dumped, goes back with their CFL teams...
And its not even a logic league. Lets talk about the point for failure or lack of Canadians-only on CFL teams. Yet, we need American-born players to upgrade our league.
If the CFL wants to be different for real, well, they should mark the fields in meters, the common measure everywhere outside the U.S. Throw Americans out of the league, and try to have more than 8 teams, viable owners (I'm just thinking about all the Ottawa fiascos over the years), and potential good markets (Halifax, Quebec City, etc...)
GGpX
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acescanuck
Mod Squad
Why is it that the CFL still supports a regional blackout policy? All of Saskatchewan gets punished cause Regina can't fill a stadium. Pisses me off.
acescanuck
Mod Squad
heh... just rebooted my Bell receiver, no longer blacked out. Must have sold out.
worm
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acescanuck
Mod Squad
What gets me is unless its sold out completely they won't lift the blackout. I live 6.5 hours from Regina. I argue that the blackout shouldn't apply outside of the city limits.
MoonLightKnight
New member
Thanks !!! that's what I call a good post.
Flutie was not quite a star in the US. Moon only came to Canada because no one wanted a black QB. Fernandez was nothing special in the NFl.
Ismail was fine in the NFL but never more than a 2 receiver.
Theismann is really the only player ever to do well in the NFL after leaving Canada.
Overstreet never was an NFL star. Ricky Williams is a terrible example, he was coming off drugs when he played here.
Biletnikoff was really old when he came up here.
Ferragamo was a one year wonder in the NFL, no wonder he failed up here.
Ismail was fine in the NFL but never more than a 2 receiver.
Theismann is really the only player ever to do well in the NFL after leaving Canada.
Overstreet never was an NFL star. Ricky Williams is a terrible example, he was coming off drugs when he played here.
Biletnikoff was really old when he came up here.
Ferragamo was a one year wonder in the NFL, no wonder he failed up here.
deandebean
Member
Flutie was ok in the NFL, but Moon was a star. Fernandez was ok, I agree. Overstreet was to be an NFL star, but decided to come here. Williams sucked, drugged up or not. Heck, even drugged up, he was a star in the NFL and having pretty solid seasons. Ferragamo DID star in the NFL, even for one season. And was the worst QB in Als history.
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