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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

UWHabs said:
Yeah, I think it's very hard to separate by profession. Does a Sobeys worker who only stock shelves get it, or only the cashiers? What counts towards "essential"? You could answer that, but I think it gets murky fast, so easier to go by broad age groups as the basis.

But yeah, I think you just take whatever shot is available when the time comes. Even if you get one that's useless against a variant, from what I understand, there shouldn't really be any adverse reactions to mixing and matching later, so I assume there will be an "Oxford SA Booster" that you'd need to get next year if that variant gets more prevalent.
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I still say there should be a wine tasting menu!


But yes... I'd take any of them. The threat right now is the UK variant and it clearly has a transmission advantage. All vaccines work quite well on that. Doesn't seem like we're seeing much spread on the SA variant in Canada by comparison.
 
UWHabs said:
Depends who's giving the swab...
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Meh, whoever is fine.
 
Preston said:
If we're doing the everyone gets one dose and delay the second dose thing we may be all due in June tbh. We'll probably have the supply for it at the very least. Second shots probably August-September.
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This timeline has been all but confirmed. Ontario hasn't announced that they'll adhere to the NACI recommendations yet, but they have in the past so we can only presume they will. They currently state 80% will be able to vaccinated by the end of June if we delay the 2nd dose, but that doesn't include J&J and Novavax so it'll definitely be everyone.

So basically we'll all have partial protection by July once the jabs kick in. Based on the UK we'll have an 80% reduction in severe cases and around 60% protection from any symptoms at all 3 weeks after the single shot. Not perfect but pretty fucking good. My lingering concern is what happens if/when the South African variant takes over, especially with the Oxford vaccine effectively useless on it? But that's for another day. We'll be able to breathe a bit for most of the summer and that's important.
 
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Wayward DP said:
I feel like everyone living in Ontario needs a vacation outside of Ontario in the worst way right now...
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I'm trying to decide if there's going to be a "roaring twenties" type boom after this. I'm of two minds, but I bloody hope so. We could use a decade of wonderfulness.
 
Preston said:
Hey, don't put this on Ontario! You're stuck in Nova Scotia!
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yeah but it is, relatively, absolutely fucking wonderful here. we've basically had one month of anything resembling a lockdown from June, 2020 till now.

basically all my fam is in ON. from afar, I have seen them getting increasingly depressed and miserable over the course of the pandemic. every time we chat basically I almost feel badly for how 'normal' shit is here...
 
Wayward DP said:
yeah but it is, relatively, absolutely fucking wonderful here. we've basically had one month of anything resembling a lockdown from June, 2020 till now.

basically all my fam is in ON. from afar, I have seen them getting increasingly depressed and miserable over the course of the pandemic. every time we chat basically I almost feel badly for how 'normal' shit is here...
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Fair enough.

Yeah after everyone gets their single dose, I think I'm done with this. There will still be risk but it'll be reduced significantly. If it wasn't for the damn variants we'd be completely out of it (especially for me as a #covidsurvivor and likely not having great immunity on the SA variant) but it's going to be a long journey. The worst of it SHOULD be over though. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.
 
yeah same, after first dose I'll start to enjoy myself again. Go see friends, slowly stop avoiding public places, etc. I'll keep wearing masks because I'm not a moron, but I can't wait to do away with this level of seclusion.
 
Ya I've hit struggle town since the holidays. Summer was a good break, but this is just a depressing slog now.

The hilarious thing is when all this started I (along with alot of people, I think) thought I would use the extra time working from home / not having social functions so productively. I would learn new skills, get in the best shape of my life, read more etc. etc.

A year later I'm in probably the worst shape of my life, diet is awful, sleep is terrible, stress is high, I've learned no new skills. Turns out I need social interaction, leisure activities, and and just a god damn change of scenery to not slowly turn into a hermit person. Who knew.
 
Preston said:
This timeline has been all but confirmed. Ontario hasn't announced that they'll adhere to the NACI recommendations yet, but they have in the past so we can only presume they will. They currently state 80% will be able to vaccinated by the end of June if we delay the 2nd dose, but that doesn't include J&J and Novavax so it'll definitely be everyone.

So basically we'll all have partial protection by July once the jabs kick in. Based on the UK we'll have an 80% reduction in severe cases and around 60% protection from any symptoms at all 3 weeks after the single shot. Not perfect but pretty fucking good. My lingering concern is what happens if/when the South African variant takes over, especially with the Oxford vaccine effectively useless on it? But that's for another day. We'll be able to breathe a bit for most of the summer and that's important.
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The AZ/Oxford vaccine will likely need a booster or alteration to the 2nd dose to fight the SA variant... this is a temp issue IMO not a long term issue.
 
The good news is Ontario has only seen 31 cases of the SA variant (and 3 of the Brazilian) and it isn't increasing exponentially like we've seen from the UK variant (now at 644 cases and increasing exponentially to the point where it's going to become the main strain very fucking soon).. So the SA variant unlikely to have a major transmission advantage like the UK variant has. And we know the vaccines work quite well on the UK variant so you're right.. it's not necessarily a pressing issue until we get some level of herd immunity and the SA variant gains an advantage. One challenge at a time I suppose.
 
UWHabs said:
Yeah, I think it's very hard to separate by profession. Does a Sobeys worker who only stock shelves get it, or only the cashiers? What counts towards "essential"? You could answer that, but I think it gets murky fast, so easier to go by broad age groups as the basis.

But yeah, I think you just take whatever shot is available when the time comes. Even if you get one that's useless against a variant, from what I understand, there shouldn't really be any adverse reactions to mixing and matching later, so I assume there will be an "Oxford SA Booster" that you'd need to get next year if that variant gets more prevalent.
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our city manager said if you go by "essential' up to 80% of people could be consider essential

so ya - basically everything is essential
 
Preston said:
Fair enough.

Yeah after everyone gets their single dose, I think I'm done with this. There will still be risk but it'll be reduced significantly. If it wasn't for the damn variants we'd be completely out of it (especially for me as a #covidsurvivor and likely not having great immunity on the SA variant) but it's going to be a long journey. The worst of it SHOULD be over though. There's a light at the end of the tunnel.
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once spring hits everything should be fine

we can all go biking, gardening, golfing, BBQs, etc as we wait for the vaccine to come in
 
All I know is I need to get outside and explore a bit to shake all of this off. I've done some small overnight thru-hikes and some short canoe-camping trips, but I'm definitely still pretty green. Problem is, apparently all the park camping and backcountry permits book up within seconds right now.

I might just drive up to the middle of nowhere northern Ontario and walk out into the wilderness. If I die, I die. Fuck this suburb.
 
WellPlayed said:
All I know is I need to get outside and explore a bit to shake all of this off. I've done some small overnight thru-hikes and some short canoe-camping trips, but I'm definitely still pretty green. Problem is, apparently all the park camping and backcountry permits book up within seconds right now.

I might just drive up to the middle of nowhere northern Ontario and walk out into the wilderness. If I die, I die. **** this suburb.
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Frontenac provincial park, near Kingston, is good for hiking and backcountry camping. If you can handle some cooler weather, they're open (but can't be booked in advance) between March 8 and April 30.
 
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