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OT: Health and Nutrition

Protein, fats, carbs. No evil food. Just Macros. Some foods/meals are more nutritionally dense than others. Your body requires all macros. Just in different allotments. You don’t want to have every meal laden in butter but it’s not unhealthy to have in and on your food occasionally.
This! Actually meant to comment on that point earlier. If we are going to say a food like butter is either "healthy" or "unhealthy", first of all that's a misnomer because it's not that simple, but if we have to choose I think it actually should be considered "healthy". There is definitely enough data to suggest that people should limit saturated fat to a certain extent, but it's not evil and likely fine in moderation.

Also I think the 80/20 rule should probably apply to anyone's eating habits. Not that I reach this goal myself because it's really hard, but if you can manage to eat healthy 80% of the time, you can probably get away with 20% 'fun' stuff because the body is actually quite adaptable, and life is short.
 
Protein, fats, carbs. No evil food. Just Macros. Some foods/meals are more nutritionally dense than others. Your body requires all macros. Just in different allotments. You don’t want to have every meal laden in butter but it’s not unhealthy to have in and on your food occasionally.
Well, that’s why I said, if I’m in a restaurant and I order a steak and it turns out they used some butter in making it, I’m not going to lose sleep over it. But if say we’re at home and preparing a meal, I wouldn’t be on board with any butter getting into it.
 
This! Actually meant to comment on that point earlier. If we are going to say a food like butter is either "healthy" or "unhealthy", first of all that's a misnomer because it's not that simple, but if we have to choose I think it actually should be considered "healthy". There is definitely enough data to suggest that people should limit saturated fat to a certain extent, but it's not evil and likely fine in moderation.

Also I think the 80/20 rule should probably apply to anyone's eating habits. Not that I reach this goal myself because it's really hard, but if you can manage to eat healthy 80% of the time, you can probably get away with 20% 'fun' stuff because the body is actually quite adaptable, and life is short.
Yeah, agree with all this, and I’m probably 90/10, and it is tough, but with that 10%, I don’t want to waste it on butter that I can’t even taste and could be switched out for olive oil or another substitute. Give me two scoops of ice cream instead.
 
Yeah, agree with all this, and I’m probably 90/10, and it is tough, but with that 10%, I don’t want to waste it on butter that I can’t even taste and could be switched out for olive oil or another substitute. Give me two scoops of ice cream instead.
Fair point, I would just say that personally I would count both butter and olive oil as part of the 80-90% healthy section, not the 10-20% unhealthy.
 
Yeah, I don't even get the comparison. Other than butter feeling heavy and indulgent (which some may like), but why would I want that in a steak or a pasta when I can have a slice of chocolate cake instead for dessert?
 
What would make you say that, other than the fact that it contains saturated fat and is calorie-dense? I don't think it's at all accurate to call it "unhealthy as fuck".
Over consumption of the product is associated with more adverse health risks than almost every other cooking fat. To me that's comparatively unhealthy as fuck. I'm not saying it's unhealthy in moderation, to be clear. And I'm not even saying there's an enormous difference between other cooking fats. But it's one of the least healthy ones.
 
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