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Taking my Kid to Spider-Man later. I hope it’s decent. Anyone see it?

Yeah it was good. Better if you know nothing about the Mysterio character before you walk in. Between basically knowing the plot minus a few details before I sat down (again, just from knowing who the mysterio character is) and the level of teenage angst present, it took it from great to just good for me. Wifey enjoyed it more than I did, being unencumbered by decades of marvel character knowledge. I figure that's probably going to be common with this one.
 
On screen, Cruise is awesome. Behind the scenes, or in interviews he's a real hollywood douche-bag. You'd almost wish it was the other way around.
 
Generally speaking fans who have had encounters with him describe as extremely likeable and generous with his time. His level of fame had been astronomical for decades, it's not an easy lifestyle.
 
Is scientology really crazier than christianity?

Nobody seems to give a shit when a hollywood star is a massive bible thumper, but Cruise is a weirdo for being a scientologist?

As a life long non believer, the christian mythology doesn't sound any less crazy to me than the scientology mythology does. At least the scientology mythology has life on other planets, space ships and shit.
 
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Generally speaking fans who have had encounters with him describe as extremely likeable and generous with his time. His level of fame had been astronomical for decades, it's not an easy lifestyle.

Yeah, I have a few connections to him. By all accounts, he’s a very decent guy. Apparently a little stingy though.

I heard one conflicting story from a client, who heard it secondhand from someone else that he had a no eye contact policy on one of his films. I call bullshit on that though.
 
Is scientology really crazier than christianity?

Nobody seems to give a shit when a hollywood star is a massive bible thumper, but Cruise is a weirdo for being a scientologist?

As a life long non believer, the christian mythology doesn't sound any less crazy to me than the scientology mythology does. At least the scientology mythology has life on other planets, space ships and shit.

Well, except that Scientology the “religion” came from the mind of a dude who lived during our lifetimes and I believe was admittedly based on his fictional tale, and devolved into an oppressive cult.

At least the traditional religions date back to thousands of years ago where we can maybe afford them some more plausibility.
 
At least the traditional religions date back to thousands of years ago where we can maybe afford them some more plausibility.

That's more of a bug than a feature, truth be told. Makes it less likely to be authentic and accurate, not more likely.
 
Nah. Given the mysteries of nature and the world that predate us, the closer you get to the beginning (thousands of years closer), the more reasonably believable a religion gets.

Some nonsense sci-fi bullshit that a contemporary hack came up with can’t come close to being more plausible than something that was passed down for numerous centuries.
 
For sure... that's why so many people believe the Earth is flat... cause it's a theory from hundreds/thousands of years ago so it's more believable than this round Earth bullshit.
 
We have a dude who lived while we were alive who admitted he made up this Zanu bullshit.

That’s as plausible a religion as ones that started thousands of years ago?
 
Same chance of being legit between a failed novelist admitting he fabricated the foundational tenets of his “religion” and one of the ancient religions?
 
We have a dude who lived while we were alive who admitted he made up this Zanu bullshit.

That’s as plausible a religion as ones that started thousands of years ago?

More plausible actually.

We're talking about a bunch of belief systems that claim to understand the nature of the universe, that all came to being a couple thousand years before the invention of electricity. Think about that for a second.

It's more likely that scientology is correct accidentally, than christianity is on purpose. Just by virtue of a couple thousands years of advance in observation and human thought.

I mean, unless we're going to believe in talking snakes and shit.
 
Nah. Given the mysteries of nature and the world that predate us, the closer you get to the beginning (thousands of years closer), the more reasonably believable a religion gets.

Why? Why does it get more plausible when the people who first "discovered" literally understood nothing about the universe around them?

Literally zero fields of useful human thought haven't been improved upon in the last couple thousand of years, but for some reason it's more plausible for arguably the most important field of human thought (assuming the mythology is true) to have made it's greatest advances in that pit of pure ignorance?

How does that make any sense?
 
Because it’s not about their understanding or knowledge. It’s a claim concerning events that happened long before we ever existed and that we can’t verify one way or the other.

Unlike Scientology, they don’t tell a story that they themselves admitted was phony fiction.
 
Because it’s not about their understanding or knowledge. It’s a claim concerning events that happened long before we ever existed and that we can’t verify one way or the other.

I think we can verify that snakes don't talk. On top of the dozens of other things from the books we can verify didn't happen.

Like I said, it's more likely that someone from the 1960's is right by accident, than it is people from two thousand years ago are right on purpose.
 
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