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GEEMAN said:
I was sick and tired of the excuses with Nero .... everything is hard to do or get

Hugo made more positive moves in 3 -6 months that Nero didnt do for a near decade .

Every move is a rational hockey decision in the best interest of the team , not the player or media .

They nailed the trade deadline and the draft so far looks promising .

There is a plan in place to get younger , faster with a long term vision .

I am convinced Hugo wouldnt of fucked up the contracts of Price/Gally/Armia /Alzner/ etc...

They would not of went all in with Weber IMO and patched ever since .
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We’ll see, there is a lot of maybes. The draft itself had a typical MB/Timmins feel.

I’m not sold on Dach but I appreciate the gamble.
Nailed the Chiarot trade but I thought the Lehkonen and Toffoli returns were underwhelming.
Not a fan of the Matheson trade yet.
Our defense is way worse than last year with no improvements in net and very little on offense (good for the tank).

I like his recruiting in analytics and player development however but so far a lot seems to rely on MSL being a coaching genius.
 
GrandWazoo said:
We’ll see, there is a lot of maybes. The draft itself had a typical MB/Timmins feel.

I’m not sold on Dach but I appreciate the gamble.
Nailed the Chiarot trade but I thought the Lehkonen and Toffoli returns were underwhelming.
Not a fan of the Matheson trade yet.
Our defense is way worse than last year with no improvements in net and very little on offense (good for the tank).

I like his recruiting in analytics and player development however but so far a lot seems to rely on MSL being a coaching genius.
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The offense will be fine. It was after MSL took over as well.
 
The D is a shambles, the only hope I have there is to see steady improvement of the kids. That’s the hope, but I figure it will be choppy. There will be some very rough stretches.

Goaltending is a total reset.
 
GrandWazoo said:
We’ll see, there is a lot of maybes. The draft itself had a typical MB/Timmins feel.

I’m not sold on Dach but I appreciate the gamble.
Nailed the Chiarot trade but I thought the Lehkonen and Toffoli returns were underwhelming.
Not a fan of the Matheson trade yet.
Our defense is way worse than last year with no improvements in net and very little on offense (good for the tank).

I like his recruiting in analytics and player development however but so far a lot seems to rely on MSL being a coaching genius.
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The thing is the moves are not patch jobs or adding more dumb salary

Dach is 21 not 29 and well worth the gamble

He didnt overpay anyone in free agency , Nero would spent like a drunk on Pitlick and others

The deadline deals were fine returns IMO

Not a huge fan of the Petry trade but MM is legit top 4 on a fair contract , and he is happy to be in Montreal

I thought the return would of been higher if we waited but we didnt acquire a 33 year old stiff with 5 years left on his deal .
 
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It’s possible, even likely, Petry would have fetched more at the trade deadline. But I assume the mood would have been untenable so they moved him.
 
In the end, I think PLD plays in Winnipeg at least this year before he is traded.

Winnipeg needs to figure out what drives everyone out. People focus on PLD but apparently, Sheifele and Wheeler want out too. As someone stated, PLD said he was seeing himself resign long therm with the jets than months later, everyone wants to jump ship.

There has been a lot of talks on the jets subreddit about how the locker room is apparently a cancer in Winnipeg. Stastny when he left said it was one of the most toxic locker rooms he had ever been part of. It's more than just being Winnipeg. There are some rotten apples that are making people want to leave. They need to address this ASAP or else, they will lose everyone and no one will want to play there.

It's not the first time players requested to be traded in Winnipeg and some got their wish to be traded where they wanted (Troube, Kane?). It puzzled me that Brisson, a season agent, would go on live TV and mention PLD wants to play for the habs. For PLD to be at the Bell center on draft day, he was probably told he was getting traded to MTL on that day but something happened and the deal fell off (rumors is the Jets were pressuring the habs to include a prospect they didn't want to include and jets were hoping on draft day the habs would cave, which didn't happen). I'm guessing PLD got frustrated, they had behind closed-door discussion that didn't go the way they wanted and then Brisson went live on TV to mention PLD wants to be a habs.
 
Guibs said:
In the end, I think PLD plays in Winnipeg at least this year before he is traded.

Winnipeg needs to figure out what drives everyone out. People focus on PLD but apparently, Sheifele and Wheeler want out too. As someone stated, PLD said he was seeing himself resign long therm with the jets than months later, everyone wants to jump ship.

There has been a lot of talks on the jets subreddit about how the locker room is apparently a cancer in Winnipeg. Stastny when he left said it was one of the most toxic locker rooms he had ever been part of. It's more than just being Winnipeg. There are some rotten apples that are making people want to leave. They need to address this ASAP or else, they will lose everyone and no one will want to play there.

It's not the first time players requested to be traded in Winnipeg and some got their wish to be traded where they wanted (Troube, Kane?). It puzzled me that Brisson, a season agent, would go on live TV and mention PLD wants to play for the habs. For PLD to be at the Bell center on draft day, he was probably told he was getting traded to MTL on that day but something happened and the deal fell off (rumors is the Jets were pressuring the habs to include a prospect they didn't want to include and jets were hoping on draft day the habs would cave, which didn't happen). I'm guessing PLD got frustrated, they had behind closed-door discussion that didn't go the way they wanted and then Brisson went live on TV to mention PLD wants to be a habs.
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Rumour was Habs made the Romy deal to get #13 and do more

They were to flip #13 +++ to Ottawa for #7 and flip it to Peg for PLD in a package deal

Hugo had the Dach deal on the sidelines if they couldnt pull it off
 
Krustchev said:
So what happens if PLD doesn’t accept his QO by today’s deadline?
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I believe the Jets have the right per CBA to extend deadline:


From the 2012 CBA:

A Qualifying Offer shall automatically expire at 5:00 p.m. New York time on July 15; provided, however, that the Club may by written notice to Central Registry and the NHLPA, sent in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, provided on or before 5:00 p.m. New York time on July 15, extend the deadline for Qualifying Offer acceptance to a date (which must be a fixed and definitive calendar date) determined in its sole discretion
 
Sal_Butera said:
I believe the Jets have the right per CBA to extend deadline:


From the 2012 CBA:

A Qualifying Offer shall automatically expire at 5:00 p.m. New York time on July 15; provided, however, that the Club may by written notice to Central Registry and the NHLPA, sent in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, provided on or before 5:00 p.m. New York time on July 15, extend the deadline for Qualifying Offer acceptance to a date (which must be a fixed and definitive calendar date) determined in its sole discretion
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They can use team elect arbitration so he cant get an offer sheet
 
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