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I'd have loved to pick up Bjorkstrand for a second and third but that would have created more cap hell. Heck of a player.

Let's be clear here, its absolutely that he's a local boy. Tell me who else would pick the Habs and only Habs as their destination but a local boy?

I think if they can the Habs should go after Dubois and Huberdeau. When was the last time there were two legitimately above average (one elite) French players that want to play for the Habs (I'm going of what Hubie had said in the past)?

All things being equal? You go for the French dudes. If the Habs manage Dubois and Huberdeau then throw in Harvey-Pinard and Roy in the future? You won't hear boo from the French press, except "see all we needed was more French guys" focusing on heritage instead of talent.

The thing you have to remember is these guys are fucking good hockey players and nobody in the conference wants the Habs getting both. So take your prejudice elsewhere, it's old and stale and the green mold has turned black on it long ago.

Grow up dude.
 
Habsy said:
I'd have loved to pick up Bjorkstrand for a second and third but that would have created more cap hell. Heck of a player.

Let's be clear here, its absolutely that he's a local boy. Tell me who else would pick the Habs and only Habs as their destination but a local boy?

I think if they can the Habs should go after Dubois and Huberdeau. When was the last time there were two legitimately above average (one elite) French players that want to play for the Habs (I'm going of what Hubie had said in the past)?

All things being equal? You go for the French dudes. If the Habs manage Dubois and Huberdeau then throw in Harvey-Pinard and Roy in the future? You won't hear boo from the French press, except "see all we needed was more French guys" focusing on heritage instead of talent.

The thing you have to remember is these guys are fucking good hockey players and nobody in the conference wants the Habs getting both. So take your prejudice elsewhere, it's old and stale and the green mold has turned black on it long ago.

Grow up dude.
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It ain't my prejudice, it's the prejudice of the Reggie Tremblay's and their acolytes who have been running this franchise into the ground for the better part of 30 years because their demands that the Habs be more French have been placed ahead of winning.

I'm fine with getting PLD and Huberdeau (provided that the price in assets and cap space needed to acquire them isn't absurd) because, as you say, at least these particular "ti-gars" have elite level talent which will translate into more wins. We aren't talking about progress-stoppers like Danault and Desharnais here.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
It ain't my prejudice, it's the prejudice of the Reggie Tremblay's and their acolytes who have been running this franchise into the ground for the better part of 30 years because their demands that the Habs be more French have been placed ahead of winning.

I'm fine with getting PLD and Huberdeau (provided that the price in assets and cap space needed to acquire them isn't absurd) because, as you say, at least these particular "ti-gars" have elite level talent which will translate into more wins. We aren't talking about progress-stoppers like Danault and Desharnais here.
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Nobody gives a shit about Reggie except dinosaurs like you. HuGo couldn't give a damn about Reggie.

This is your prejudice. You have a sharp inability to let things go, for decades.
 
Habsy said:
Nobody gives a shit about Reggie except dinosaurs like you. HuGo couldn't give a damn about Reggie.

This is your prejudice. You have a sharp inability to let things go, for decades.
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The previous front office administrations gave a shit about Reggie which is why this team sucked ass for so long. There used to be members of the francophone media who would openly brag about having the power to get any Habs coach or GM fired and it wasn't an idle boast. HuGo doesn't give a damn about the francophone media which is why they aren't in any rush to acquire PLD. If Bergy was still around, we'd have traded for PLD 2 weeks ago and the Jets today would probably have Slafkovsky, Guhle and our 2023 first rounder because "When someone offers you Pierre-Luc Dubois you don't say no!"

Again, none of this is about me, it's simply what had always happened prior to the HuGo administration. And that is why I say that this entire PLD to Montreal narrative isn't coming from the front office but from the wishful thinkers in the francophone media who obsess over how French or not the Habs are on a day-to-day basis.
 
Krustchev said:
It’s 2022. Where PLD and JH are from, and their ethnicity, are irrelevant to me.
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It's irrelevant to me also and I believe that it is also irrelevant to HuGo, which is the one thing that has changed. If Bergevin was still running the show he'd be as obsessed with PLD as the francophone media is. HuGo isn't losing any sleep over this and neither am I. I'd like to get PLD but ultimately I don't care if we don't get him. HuGo will eventually get somebody, either PLD or someone else. But we are done with filling quotas.
 
Fuck off. Bergevin/Timmins passed over so many French players. They did NOT give a fuck about Reggie either.

You're so it to lunch that you make it difficult to even have the conversation. It's all about you and your prejudices/fears and I'm asking you to think a minute before posting this drivel. We're all older Habs fans, you did not experience more than most of us. We know the history too yet you're the one constantly beating that drum.

Stop dude. You don't live in QC anymore. Chill.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
If PLD was also from Scandanavia we wouldn't be looking to acquire him any more than we're trying to get Bjorkstrand. The entire PLD to Montreal narrative is predicated on "the thing which dare not speak its name". We all know this is what is driving that particular bus. If his name was Peter Luke Wood we wouldn't even have a thread in this forum dedicated to discussing him.

The reality of the situation is that, if anything, PLD needs the Habs more than the Habs need him. No one player outside of perhaps McDavid is going to change the math for the Habs next season. They are going to suck with or without PLD so there's no rush. Hughes can simply wait for him to turn UFA when the time comes. He doesn't need to part with valuable assets. Either the Jets take the Habs' surplus garbage today or they lose PLD for nothing next summer (or hope they can get something for him as a rental at the deadline) The Habs are at least a year and probably a few years away from PLD's presence on the roster mattering. There's no need to rush. PLD will still be a "ti-gars de chez nous" a year from now.
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I understand. The fact is, at this time, we don't need PLD. I know we all want the best deal, but if PLD is going to give us a long term deal because Montreal is his 'hometown', couldn't he see the big picture and just sign here as a FA? We don't need him for 2 years min like you said. Look, maybe he's homesick and wants to come home right away lol.
 
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Habsy said:
Fuck off. Bergevin/Timmins passed over so many French players. They did NOT give a fuck about Reggie either.

You're so it to lunch that you make it difficult to even have the conversation. It's all about you and your prejudices/fears and I'm asking you to think a minute before posting this drivel. We're all older Habs fans, you did not experience more than most of us. We know the history too yet you're the one constantly beating that drum.

Stop dude. You don't live in QC anymore. Chill.
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Neither you nor I live in Quebec anymore because this mentality still persists there in all aspects of daily life.

The best thing about HuGo and the thing that allows them to do their jobs their way is that by not being French themselves, they are working under no expectations that they will favor francophone players above others or do certain things a certain way just because. They can simply go about their jobs and build a winning team. They themselves may not know it yet, but winning will solve literally every problem and remove every obstacle in their path. The winning will drown out the Reggie's and their complaints about the percentage of francophone representation on the roster. Habs fans may love their "ti-gars" but they love winning Cups more. When banners get raised, the bitching stops.
 
Nobody cares but the prejudiced. On both sides of this bullshit. As I said, your message is stale.
 
Habsy said:
Nobody cares but the prejudiced. On both sides of this bullshit. As I said, your message is stale.
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Last time I checked Reggie still had a job taking up column inches for le JdeM so someone is still reading his stuff and nodding their heads in agreement. Enough to keep him on Peladeau's payroll, anyway.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Neither you nor I live in Quebec anymore because this mentality still persists there in all aspects of daily life.

The best thing about HuGo and the thing that allows them to do their jobs their way is that by not being French themselves, they are working under no expectations that they will favor francophone players above others or do certain things a certain way just because. They can simply go about their jobs and build a winning team. They themselves may not know it yet, but winning will solve literally every problem and remove every obstacle in their path. The winning will drown out the Reggie's and their complaints about the percentage of francophone representation on the roster. Habs fans may love their "ti-gars" but they love winning Cups more. When banners get raised, the bitching stops.
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You know the Habs have never won a Cup without a significant, if not a majority of local players, right?
 
Habsy said:
I'd have loved to pick up Bjorkstrand for a second and third but that would have created more cap hell. Heck of a player.

Let's be clear here, its absolutely that he's a local boy. Tell me who else would pick the Habs and only Habs as their destination but a local boy?

I think if they can the Habs should go after Dubois and Huberdeau. When was the last time there were two legitimately above average (one elite) French players that want to play for the Habs (I'm going of what Hubie had said in the past)?

All things being equal? You go for the French dudes. If the Habs manage Dubois and Huberdeau then throw in Harvey-Pinard and Roy in the future? You won't hear boo from the French press, except "see all we needed was more French guys" focusing on heritage instead of talent.

The thing you have to remember is these guys are fucking good hockey players and nobody in the conference wants the Habs getting both. So take your prejudice elsewhere, it's old and stale and the green mold has turned black on it long ago.

Grow up dude.
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Huby is a nice add for free but at 30 that is one risky fucken contract

Too bad the team isnt 2-3 years ahead of the development curve

You cant have another Price fuck up where years 4-7 are doozers
 
Habsy said:
This is the heritage over skill argument.

The Habs had skilled players that happened to be French. They also had players from other countries and English Canada. It was a collective win.
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Just saying that having local players on the team is not mutually exclusive with winning Cups. I was also pointing out that we don't know whether the whining stops when we're raising banners since it never happened before. Also there is not that much whining about the lack of local players on the team to start with.
 
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