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OT: American Politics

Six dead and so far 48 reported injured. The attackers drove a van into pedestrians on the bridge then left the van and started knifing people in a nearby crowded market. Three of the dead were the attackers who were shot by the police.
 
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patterns.
 
busy morning for donnie.

attack and insult UK and London on twitter in the wake of a tragedy, then rush out to "meetings" in a golf shirt.
 
zeke said:
busy morning for donnie.

attack and insult UK and London on twitter in the wake of a tragedy, then rush out to "meetings" in a golf shirt.
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he also retweeted a drudge report and then deleted it

Meanwhile, Secretary of Defense Mattis throws Trump a little shade -- he declined to comment on London attacks: "I like to learn about something before I talk."
 
JackBurton said:
I honestly think these morons have no idea the U.S could dictate their own emissions as per the Paris accord. It was hardly a "Bad Deal". It was such a great deal even North Korea agreed to it. Yes, North Korea.
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A zombified St. Ronnie of Raygun cruising in a bitumen burning pink caddy could have told 'em that, and it wouldn't have changed anything.

They don't care. This is about sticking it to elite libtards, smarty-pants Eurotrash, and that uppity Obama who humiliated Sir Donnie at the correspondents' dinner in 2011.
 
approaching 6 months in and donnie hasn't yet passed a law of any significance, and isn't even close to doing it, and has yet to hire anyone to fill most government positions, including FBI director.

but he has golfed every weekene without fail, most weekends multiple times.
 
Looking at that chart, I guess what concerns me is that after the initial "what the **** did we just do" wore off from some of the independents, it seems like his base of support (about 38-40%) hasn't really ****ing flinched. Which kind of suggests that there's really nothing in the short or medium term that this useless **** can do to shake their support. It's quasi religious at this point, they're so convinced in the righteousness of making liberals smell what Trump is shitting in their mouths that nothing he does will shake their support.
 
MindzEye said:
Looking at that chart, I guess what concerns me is that after the initial "what the **** did we just do" wore off from some of the independents, it seems like his base of support (about 38-40%) hasn't really ****ing flinched. Which kind of suggests that there's really nothing in the short or medium term that this useless **** can do to shake their support. It's quasi religious at this point, they're so convinced in the righteousness of making liberals smell what Trump is shitting in their mouths that nothing he does will shake their support.
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sunk costs fallacy at work -- may need more time to work his support down to 30%, which is a giant danger zone for the party.

Even a disgraced Nixon held on to 25% approval rating. I can see Trump keeping 30% no matter what.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

MindzEye said:
Thing is, most people are poor judges of "substance"

For example, Uncle Stephen was considered to be a policy wonk and had "substance" (well he must, because there was no charisma in them hills) but he had a hard time making policy that was legal, his economic background was in the heavily discredited Austrian school of economics, and he ran massive deficits long after the economic shocks of 2008 had come and gone. There wasn't a hell of a lot of substance there when his legislative record is held up to the light of day, yet even today with the benefit of hindsight, lack of substance isn't something attached to the Harper era.

Charisma though, is easy to judge.
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I think your post unintentionally touches on an effect we've seen a lot recently. Sometimes if we see someone who doesn't have one talent, we sort of assume they have some sort of ability on the other end of the spectrum. Harper sure as hell wasn't a firebrand populist or great orator, so he must have substantial and well though-out policies, or else how would he be there? Rob Ford clearly hasn't the faintest clue about policy or numbers, so he must have a great gut feel for things. Insert your Trump or Trudeau assumptions at will.
 
Yep...people want real change regarding terrorism? Start holding politicians feet to the fire on our national relationships with the Saudis and scream from the highest hill about energy independence of one form or another. The sooner we make it very uncomfortable for politicians to be seen dealing with the Saudis in any real way, the sooner that a mixture of policy and technology will make them useless as partners unless they get their shit together. Which they won't/can't.
 
MindzEye said:
Yep...people want real change regarding terrorism? Start holding politicians feet to the fire on our national relationships with the Saudis and scream from the highest hill about energy independence of one form or another. The sooner we make it very uncomfortable for politicians to be seen dealing with the Saudis in any real way, the sooner that a mixture of policy and technology will make them useless as partners unless they get their shit together. Which they won't/can't.
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Energy independence is the key.

Trump's globe hold, and his removal from the paris accord, is just another cog in keeping the Saudi's in complete control over everything with oil.

If the US and europe actually went full bore with solar and wind, the oil that they produce would be enough to keep industry going and the Saudi's would be broke, and they ****ing know it.

Throw a whole solar farm in the new mexico and arizona dessert and half of the country's electricity problems would be solved.
 
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